Some thoughts on TV
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A couple weeks ago,
alethialia asked people to comment with their five favorite TV series ever. I find that topic fascinating, so I thought I'd try it here. Plus, it offers another opportunity for fannish navel-gazing! (I swear, I'll stop with this soon.)
Name your five favorite series--not the ones you think are "best" (for whatever that definition encompasses for you), not the five most critically-acclaimed, most popular, whatever, but favorite.
My five were:
Northern Exposure
Babylon 5
Slings & Arrows
Battlestar Galactica
Wonderfalls
What seems immediately apparent is that I'm drawn more strongly to ensemble shows rather than, say, buddy-cop shows, or Doctor Who, where it's often the Doctor and the companion du jour against the world. I'm interested in the world built by these shows, or our world as defined by these shows, and to get a fuller perspective on that world, one needs more viewpoints. To that end, two of them have absolutely mammoth regular casts and a slew of reoccurring guest characters; two have larger-than-average regular casts (nine for NX, 11ish for S&A) and also use several reoccurring characters; WF, at eight main characters (minus the wax lion, etc.), isn't as huge, but is still on the big side. Two of them (S&A, Wonderfalls) do have a central protagonist, but they never forget to give the supporting characters full and interesting storylines which often have little to do with that central protagonist. The other three, while technically having someone who comes first in the credits, really don't give that person more time in the spotlight than most or all of the other characters.
(I wonder if part of the reason I like ensemble shows it that it ups the chances of getting interesting female characters. These all have some fantastic ones.)
The other big thing they all have in common is that, on some level, they all deal with creating a community and/or discovering, taking, and defining one's place in either the created community or one that exists before the show starts. One is about finding your place in a family, one about finding it in a small town, another in a professional community and as an artist; one creates a society out of a ragtag fleet, and one out of civilizations on a galactic scale. (B5 includes a hefty dose of "taking/defining one's place" from pretty much all the characters, not to mention the cultures they come from. And beyond that I shall remain silent because to do otherwise would be very spoily!)
The final conceptual glue holding this list--and all of my runners up, about which more in a moment--is QUIRK. Apparently I am an even bigger fan of magical realism than I thought. For example, every single one of these shows includes at least one character who hears voices in their heads and/or sees and speaks people who don't exist (anymore). Granted, B5 tends to have sci-fi explanations for this--telepathy, generally--but Sheridan's dream in S2, say, still falls into the general pattern; not to mention there are all the prophecies and such going on. Things get even more quirky/magically realistic if we include my runners up, which are due South (ghost!Bob), Farscape (though Harvey does get a sci-fi explanation), Pushing Daisies (no ghosts, but it passes the fantasy test because, well, Ned brings dead people back to life), and Moonlighting (again, no ghosts or visions, but...yeah, I think you could say it's pretty damn quirky. Fourth wall? What's that?).
...All of this says yet again that I really ought to LOVE Buffy. And yet, somehow, no. I was going to suggest that this means I now have a really good metric for picking out media to glom onto, but that reminds me that there are always exceptions, apparently.
Anyway. Your five favorites, go.
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Name your five favorite series--not the ones you think are "best" (for whatever that definition encompasses for you), not the five most critically-acclaimed, most popular, whatever, but favorite.
My five were:
Northern Exposure
Babylon 5
Slings & Arrows
Battlestar Galactica
Wonderfalls
What seems immediately apparent is that I'm drawn more strongly to ensemble shows rather than, say, buddy-cop shows, or Doctor Who, where it's often the Doctor and the companion du jour against the world. I'm interested in the world built by these shows, or our world as defined by these shows, and to get a fuller perspective on that world, one needs more viewpoints. To that end, two of them have absolutely mammoth regular casts and a slew of reoccurring guest characters; two have larger-than-average regular casts (nine for NX, 11ish for S&A) and also use several reoccurring characters; WF, at eight main characters (minus the wax lion, etc.), isn't as huge, but is still on the big side. Two of them (S&A, Wonderfalls) do have a central protagonist, but they never forget to give the supporting characters full and interesting storylines which often have little to do with that central protagonist. The other three, while technically having someone who comes first in the credits, really don't give that person more time in the spotlight than most or all of the other characters.
(I wonder if part of the reason I like ensemble shows it that it ups the chances of getting interesting female characters. These all have some fantastic ones.)
The other big thing they all have in common is that, on some level, they all deal with creating a community and/or discovering, taking, and defining one's place in either the created community or one that exists before the show starts. One is about finding your place in a family, one about finding it in a small town, another in a professional community and as an artist; one creates a society out of a ragtag fleet, and one out of civilizations on a galactic scale. (B5 includes a hefty dose of "taking/defining one's place" from pretty much all the characters, not to mention the cultures they come from. And beyond that I shall remain silent because to do otherwise would be very spoily!)
The final conceptual glue holding this list--and all of my runners up, about which more in a moment--is QUIRK. Apparently I am an even bigger fan of magical realism than I thought. For example, every single one of these shows includes at least one character who hears voices in their heads and/or sees and speaks people who don't exist (anymore). Granted, B5 tends to have sci-fi explanations for this--telepathy, generally--but Sheridan's dream in S2, say, still falls into the general pattern; not to mention there are all the prophecies and such going on. Things get even more quirky/magically realistic if we include my runners up, which are due South (ghost!Bob), Farscape (though Harvey does get a sci-fi explanation), Pushing Daisies (no ghosts, but it passes the fantasy test because, well, Ned brings dead people back to life), and Moonlighting (again, no ghosts or visions, but...yeah, I think you could say it's pretty damn quirky. Fourth wall? What's that?).
...All of this says yet again that I really ought to LOVE Buffy. And yet, somehow, no. I was going to suggest that this means I now have a really good metric for picking out media to glom onto, but that reminds me that there are always exceptions, apparently.
Anyway. Your five favorites, go.
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Date: 2010-07-14 04:32 am (UTC)Gargoyles
Remington Steele
Castle
The Adventures of Brisco County Jr.
The Muppet Show
Clearly, this is a wildly eclectic list -- of the five, one's animated, one is a variety show, one is (partly) a Western, and while Steele and Castle are structurally and thematically similar, there's a lot of time and distance between the two.
At the end of the day, though, I think that what ties these shows together is a more or less consistent worldview, characterized by persistently starry-eyed optimism no matter how silly, scary, crazy, or downright dangerous the world around you may get in any particular week.
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Date: 2010-07-14 05:13 pm (UTC)Castle nearly made it onto my runners up list. I love all the characters. But it just doesn't have that certain level of
crazyfantasy or science fiction that I yearn for...no subject
Date: 2010-07-14 06:09 pm (UTC)I think, though, that for me "favorite" involves a degree of overall consistency that many longer-running series haven't always sustained, so when drafting a list of all-time favorites, I went for things that shine as a whole. (Also, I'm nearly as much of a mystery/swashbuckler fan as I am an SF/F fan, so that was definitely a consideration.)
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Date: 2010-07-14 07:44 pm (UTC)I think consistency defined a lot of people's favorites over on the other post. It kind of does for me, but not really--I mean, I don't consider the last seasons of either Northern Exposure or B5 canon, and there's plenty in S3 of BSG I'd like to forget. So there must just be some kind of critical mass a show has to meet for me or something. :D
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Date: 2010-07-14 07:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-14 05:50 pm (UTC)At the time, I definitely exhibited the pattern I do with other ensemble shows, just amped up because I was a teenager: adore everyone, but really glom onto a couple of the female characters and fic the hell out of them.
I eventually went off Voyager in particular and the franchise as a whole, really, when I discovered Farscape, and thus storytelling that had consequences and arcs and realistic character development. (Well, DS9 eventually got these. But not from the beginning.) You're right that Voyager and DS9 both had a community theme; for Voyager, though, it was mishandled SO BADLY that I almost don't want to acknowledge it. A couple of years ago, I gave some thought to what I would've liked to have seen on the show, and...it came out looking a lot like new BSG. *g* Or like Macedon and Peg's Talking Stick/Circle series, which was just incredible, and exactly like it should've been.
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Date: 2010-07-14 04:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-14 05:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-14 02:57 am (UTC)honorable mentions: Pushing Daisies, Babylon 5, Due South, Medium, My Lovely Samsoon, Buffy, Angel, In Plain Sight
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Date: 2010-07-14 05:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-14 06:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-14 07:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-14 08:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-16 06:04 pm (UTC)1. The West Wing
2. The X-Files
3. Stargate SG-1
4. Sports Night
5. Gilmore Girls
Probably. Interestingly they're all shows which are no longer on air. I think I'm quite reluctant to call a show a 'favourite' until I've demonstrated enough loyalty to it by still watching X number of years after it's ended.
At the moment I'm loving several shows that have the potential to make it to 'favourite' status eventually (Criminal Minds, Bones, Grey's Anatomy, The Big Bang Theory, Sanctuary...) but no matter how much I love them right now, they'll need to last longer before they earn that status.
I sound like a crazy person now, right?
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Date: 2010-07-16 10:37 pm (UTC)I sound like a crazy person now, right?
Hee! :D